So a gazillion (like that's a actual unit) years later some brave educated anonymous soul responds to my "The Passion of Society" entry. So I got a comment on that entry if you look closely I'm re-running Mr./Mrs. Anon's response below..I'll be interjecting in a different color.Please note my color choice. :-PSince I don't have Mr./Mrs. Anon's proper email address (so sorry for the lack of privacy) I'm going to use this wonderful medium to respond. You also seem like a really well versed individual even though you don't site any kind of text other than the horribly error ridden religious text (a.k.a. The Bible). For those of your who are mere bystanders in this entry (and of course no insult to Mr./Mrs. Anon) I'll be highlighting the SAT/GRE words and linking them to Webster.com so the rest of us can concisely know what is going on!Heatxsink,I never heard of 'The Passion of Society' until I reached your above post by Googling 'Anonymous Evangelist' because I was contemplating being an 'anonymous evangelist' myself (though 'AnonymousEvangelist/JesusFreak's' reply to you seems insipid to me, though perhaps not untrue). So I just came into this movie (of your thread, if you will) and don't know what happened before and have only been here a few seconds, having not even read previous posts in the thread to get oriented. But, even with this naivete, I am still motivated to respond to your post:Cool, sounds like fun, and don't worry I only rant on religion probably less than the number of digits on a human hand!! Quite frankly I was outraged by society's response to the film!! And that motivated this entry in the blog, or thread as you so fittingly put it.My guess is that you are responding to 'The Passion of the Christ' by Mel Gibson and 'The Passion of Society' is just a pseudonym for Mel's movie, but, in a sense, that is beside the point. I wanted to respond to your post's contents, not necessarily what motivated them.Yes, good observation!What you, and everyone else for that matter, need to realize is that you are deceived. Your religion, so-called Christianity, has been hijacked by the devil about 1600 years ago, if not before that, shortly after it was initially formulated by Yahoshuah (Jesus Christ, if you prefer). Constantine was a manipulator and his decrees and pronouncements bringing thousands of pagans into so-called Christianity did not 'convert' them.The pagans' religious holiday observances then displaced (and overcame) 'the Truth once revealed' to the early disciples, replacing God's Holy Days (revealed in the Bible) with the pagan holidays common to so-called Christianity ever since. This so-called Christianity is actually an ancient religion ante-dating Yahoshuah but just given the name of 'Christ' in order to subvert the true message of our Savior. Then the Protestants came out of this mother harlot (of which Methodism is one of her daughters) in protest but their protestations did not go far enough to restore the true religion.Would this mean that one of the most translated and sacred books of this doctrine which is Christianity is flawed? Heavens no I had no idea!For instance, do you know how to count to seven? Most pre-schoolers do. It is not very hard to do that! Yet most doofus theologians apparently don't know how to do that: Just read the fourth commandment of the Ten Commandments and realize that the etymology of the very word 'sabbath' includes the meaning of the number 'seven' itself. Then look at a calendar (but not the new 'modern' ones that start on Monday and end on Sunday, which perpetrate the hoax even more egregiously), count the days in the week and see which one is the seventh day. Most so-called Christians don't know how to count to seven because their doofus theologians and denominational leaders either haven't realized this or are too caught up in the hoax to change it and begin to obey God instead. So, like I wrote, they and you are deceived. Logical Deduction, logic is great isn't it?Now if your religious leaders are deceived (and they are) and you are too, don't you think that you might end up frustrated by the foolishness and stupidity that they end up spouting because they don't even realize, by and large, what is important or what they should be doing with their ministry? They dumb down their congregants, fleece them and provide a sort of country club where they can come and share some social contact but it is all phony because they don't know what they are doing or ought to be doing.I think that was precisely the point I was attempting to make, but thanks for putting it in that context!The system of so-called Christianity is not just 'already possibly flawed', it **is** definitely absolutely 'flawed'!! Blow the dust off of your Bible and read what it really says. Don't expect to get any enlightenment from your pastors. They don't even know what the word 'faith' means! It is defined in the Bible itself and the Bible's definition is the opposite of what you will learn from your so-called Christian religious leaders. Faith is the evidence of things not seen, not a way of kidding yourself that certain truths are true in the absence of that evidence!!Okay we know from everything that exists till today, that "real life" situations are never determined definitive. Unless it's a court of law, even then there exists a certain margin of error. So to say everything is flawed is just as bad as saying everything is perfect! So I'm going to have to disagree with your statement above. Secondly, how can I gain information from a religious document that has _SO_ much error in it? I mean I've read it, I've tried to take from it the good that has been taught and apply it to everyday life. What _MORE_ could/should be done?The true God does not expect you to be a fool but the theologians were blind sided by misinterpreted Godless philosophy about a hundred years ago when philosophers more-or-less declared that hard science is rational and that religious belief is not rational. Actually, true religion *is* rational. All the irrational stuff is part of the deception of the devil. But beyond that, people today are hoodwinked into thinking that God does not exist, that evolution is true or, worse yet, that the earth was created out of nothing a mere 6000 years ago. Common sense and the punctuated equilibrium found in the conformal strata found from the bottom of the Grand Canyon on up through the Great Basin states and coming out on top in the present in Wyoming easily disprove that, yet many so-called Christians are being led even further astray from common sense by a doofus 6000-year-old-earth theory! Heisenberg's statistical quantum mechanics was misinterpreted by the philosophers to 'prove' that God plays dice and that 'therefore' there is no absolute truth. Again, nonsense! To measure canonically conjugate QM variables to arbitrary accuracy beyond the value of Planck's Constant means that the measurement perturbs the experiment so that accuracy is lost. But that does not mandate a **philosophy of QM**, as Heisenberg wrongly insisted, which is driven by pure random chance. There could be (and IMO are) 'hidden variables' (see the old book "The Philosophy of Quantum Mechanics" by Max Jammer to understand this), unmeasurable by man because his measuring instruments can't measure below Planck's Constant with arbitrary accuracy, and those hidden variables mean that everything in the world [driven by the four forces known to conventional physicas in 4D spacetime -- i.e. excluding living processes that have associated superimposed electrical 'fields' guiding them (see "The Fields of Life" by Erwin Schroedinger), and excluding God's or other 'spirit' world beings' 'miracles'] is causal -- i.e. predictable by non-arbitrary, non-statistical cause-to-effect forces and principles -- i.e. 'God doesn't play dice' just like Einstean thought. So Heisenberg didn't get this and the philosophers grabbed onto this straw and hoodwinked nearly every public/secular elementary school teacher into assuming that morality itself has no anchor and that 'situation ethics' is the best we can do if we look to physics as a basis for morality -- throwing out God and the Bible in the process (even though such an adjustment to moralistic philosophy would be a non-sequitur even ***if*** Heisenberg's statistical philosophy of quantum mechanics *had* been true)! The religious leaders are so doofus about this rational reality that they can't even 'talk the talk' of what I just wrote. It is over their heads. Yet they are hoodwinked by it like nearly everyone else just as surely as the sun rises in the morning.Quantum mechanics is fun!Therefore, to many prideful hard scientists they think their agnosticism and atheism is on solid ground but they have been deceived by the vain philosophers also. Very few people have studied the hard sciences with an open mind to learn the truth plus blown the dust off of their Bibles to see what **it** really says also. It's all compatible. All the stories that religion is irrational and hard science is rational therefore they can't agree [so, in a sense, you have to be an evolutionist six days a week and a Creationist on the first day of the week (check your old style calendar)] is a bunch of bogus nonsense but very few people have figured this out because they have all been deceived! They don't even have faith because they don't even know what faith is! It isn't kidding yourself. It is **proof** that the Bible and the claims in it, including those made by our Savior, are true.Sure I agree with you on that, but there still exists a certain amount of error and one cannot just ignore it!Are you willing to get educated about religion, heatxsink? If so, post another reply in this thread or e-mail me.I always open to learning a new perspective on anything. And, well I posted so comment again!I agree with you about evangelism. My own religious denomination's doctrines have gone off into the weeds also but I do not have control or influence over the denominational leaders who are proud of their newly earned ThDs they got at the Methodist seminary and they think they have already figured everything out, being happy going back to the vomit the dogs puked up and we had ourselves vomited up when we repented originally decades ago. But they think that Methodist puke is really good tasting food and are trying to shove it down our throats. So I don't have a stomach for trying to evangelize people into our apostate religion either anymore, even though we are encouraged to do that. I am somewhat like a man without a nation, but I try to be a pillar, nevertheless, for other members and try to set a good example even though denominationally we are in a profound state of apostasy. There are very few people who understand what I have written to you here (and to whomever else reads this post and can understand it).Please reply, keep whatever true faith you have, and best wishes!I'd like to really thank you for your post. Even though a certain amount of error exists, I still have my faith. If my fellow man needs help, I help him/her. We can't just go around being selfish. Regardless of religion/beliefs etc... In short I think that's what the intention behind religion and all of that really is. There is also a spiritual side to things as well, but that's on a personal level with the individual and their ideals/beliefs. Anyways, I look forward to your reply, and really spending some more time learning about religion.
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